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[[image:Nthtimes.jpg|right|thumb|"The Nth Times" CD cover art]]
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A largely electronic band from the early 1990's, Love and Violence were for a short period a popular live act, playing a particularly memorable gig at the University of Waikato's Orientation 1994.  
A largely electronic band formed in 1988, Love and Violence were for a short period a popular live act, playing (for example) the [[Discordia Concors]] [[Discordia Concors Release|release party]] in 1993, and a well attended gig at [[the University of Waikato]]'s Orientation in 1993 (supporting ''Headless Chickens'' and ''Frente'').  They were also known to make appearances at regular electro-industrial specialist events, including ''[[The Bunker]]'' in Hamilton and ''Technohell'' in Auckland.<br>
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Love and Violence initially began life as a duo, featuring brothers [[Andrew Newth]] and [[Scott Newth]]. They released one tape, [[The Nth Times]], on [[Airwigg]] in 1992. The album included the song ''Sin'', featuring a lengthy sample of an American evangelist, which received much airplay on [[Contact 89FM]] at that time.  Also in 1992, two early songs, ''Wish'' and ''Egyptian Paradise'' appeared on the compilation [[Just Teasing V1]].<br>
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Love and Violence initially featured brothers [[Andrew Newth]] and [[Scott Newth]], and later added [[Scott Brodie]] on guitar. They released one CD ''The Nth Times'' on Airwigg records in 1993, including the song ''Sin'' which recieved much airplay in Contact 89FM at that time.
 
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They soon decided that their live shows required more than vocals and electronica, and added [[Scott Brodie]] (of [[Spatula Death]], and later [[Inchworm]]) on guitar in December 1992. ''The Nth Times'' was then re-released on CD in April 1993 with two bonus tracks (both featuring Brodie's guitar work), and had the distinction of being the first full-length internationally distributed CD release from a Hamilton band.  The CD release party was held at [[Ward Lane Tavern]] on 22 April 1993, supported by [[Romantic Andes]], and copies could be obtained at a discount rate if you held a coupon provided with the original tape.<br>
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Brodie had left the band in March, immediately prior to the CD release, to concentrate on [[Spatula Death]], [[Inchworm]], and his studies.  His place was taken by [[Chris Fish]], and drummer [[Mark McGeady|Marky Mark]] and was later added.  Also in 1993 the Love and Violence track ''Violator'' appeared on the [[Discordia Concors]] CD, and ''Time Is Now'' appears on the [[They came to take us alive]] compilation. "Turn To Me" was re-recorded in 1993 and released as a radio single.  The video received a number of plays on television and was directed by Paul Swadel. [[Chris Paki]] (guitar) was added to the band prior to their break-up in 1997.
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The band came to a halt in 1997 with a half finished album recorded at [[Zoo Studios]], which closed due to financial difficulties.  Only two songs, "Untitled" (included on the [[Contact FM]] compilation [[Green Eggs and Hamilton]]) under the Fallen name, and "Confessional" were ever released, using the Love and Violence name again.  "Confessional" won a Waikato Rock Award for Best Recorded Work for Scott and Andrew Newth.  The video for "Confessional" was directed by [[Greg Page]] from a concept by Scott Newth. However, the video was deemed to be 'too dark for TV' and no station would play it.
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Scott and Andrew Newth had established [[Rumpus Room]] with drummer [[Greg Page]] by this time, working again with Scott Brodie, and later Chris Paki. Scott and Andrew Newth (along with drummer Marky Mark, and guitarists Chis Fish) also went on to form the short-lived [[FALLen]] in 1997. The name change was due to the new direction the music was taking at the time, and the arrival of [[Chris Paki]] on guitar. Chris Fish and Marky Mark also later appeared in [[Department of Corrections]], roughly between 1995 and 1997.
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At the 2010 [[Circle Jerk]], ''Violator'' was covered by [[Radio Over Moscow]]. A studio version of the song was released on the ''[[Circle Jerk 2010 EP]]''.
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==Releases==
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[[The Nth Times]] album (cassette), 1992 <br>
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[[The Nth Times]] album (CD, including bonus tracks), 1993<br>
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''Wish'' and ''Egyptian Paradise'' appeared on the 1992 compilation [[Just Teasing V1]]<br>
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''Violator'' appeared on the 1993 compilation [[Discordia Concors]] <br>
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''Time is Now'' appears on the 1993 compilation [[They came to take us alive]]<br>
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''Turn to Me (radio mix)'' appears on the 1993 promo CD [[Kiwi Hit Disc 5]]<br>
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''Confessional'' appeared on the 1996 compilation [[BURN]]<br>
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"Untitled" appeared on the 1997 compilation [[Green Eggs and Hamilton]], using the name [[FALLen]]<br>
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==Published Articles==
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*''Love and Violence'' Interview, ''L&V CD Release Gig'' Review, and ''CD - The Nth Times'' Review, by [[John Needham]], [[Nexus]], 26 April 1993, P24-25
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Another song, ''Violator'', appeared on the Discordia Concors CD.
 
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[[Category:Bands]]

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